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		<title>Comment on Beatles on January 30, 1969 by tristan lush</title>
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		<dc:creator>tristan lush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like ur views man....very nice.</description>
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		<title>Comment on First episode of Let It Be podcast by musicmaniac</title>
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		<dc:creator>musicmaniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 16:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superb blog,very informative,many of the songs I&#039;ve never heard before.can we exchange link?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Beatles on January 31, 1969 by Allyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a good question.

I think, like &quot;Across the Universe,&quot; &quot;The Long and Winding Road&quot; is a song the Beatles never got &lt;i&gt;right&lt;/i&gt;.  Maybe if they&#039;d had more time to work on it, to work it &lt;i&gt;out&lt;/i&gt;, they could have done something brilliant with it.  I think it&#039;s a lovely song, and it&#039;s heartfelt, but I wonder how it would have been if it were just Paul on the piano and Ringo on the cymbals.  I&#039;m not really sure that it &lt;i&gt;needs&lt;/i&gt; a big production.

However, you can argue that Paul clearly thought the Beatles got the song right at some put during the &quot;Get Back&quot; sessions, as it wasn&#039;t resurrected a few months later (as compared to, say, John&#039;s &quot;Across the Universe&quot; and &quot;Child of Nature,&quot; both originally from the &quot;White Album&quot; sessions that got runthroughs during &quot;Get Back&quot;).  Paul may have thought that what the Beatles had was good enough, whereas he redid &quot;Teddy Boy&quot; later for &lt;i&gt;McCartney&lt;/i&gt;, pulling that song from &lt;i&gt;Let It Be&lt;/i&gt;.  (That said, there was &lt;b&gt;never&lt;/b&gt; any good reason for the Beatles&#039; &quot;Teddy Boy&quot; to be released.)

My personal favorite version of &quot;Long and Winding&quot; is a cover; George Benson covered it on &lt;i&gt;I Ain&#039;t Got No Kick Against Modern Jazz&lt;/i&gt;, a jazz take on the Beatles GRP put out in the mid-90s.  It&#039;s a pretty uneven collection overall, but I liked Benson&#039;s &quot;Long and Winding&quot; a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a good question.</p>
<p>I think, like &#8220;Across the Universe,&#8221; &#8220;The Long and Winding Road&#8221; is a song the Beatles never got <i>right</i>.  Maybe if they&#8217;d had more time to work on it, to work it <i>out</i>, they could have done something brilliant with it.  I think it&#8217;s a lovely song, and it&#8217;s heartfelt, but I wonder how it would have been if it were just Paul on the piano and Ringo on the cymbals.  I&#8217;m not really sure that it <i>needs</i> a big production.</p>
<p>However, you can argue that Paul clearly thought the Beatles got the song right at some put during the &#8220;Get Back&#8221; sessions, as it wasn&#8217;t resurrected a few months later (as compared to, say, John&#8217;s &#8220;Across the Universe&#8221; and &#8220;Child of Nature,&#8221; both originally from the &#8220;White Album&#8221; sessions that got runthroughs during &#8220;Get Back&#8221;).  Paul may have thought that what the Beatles had was good enough, whereas he redid &#8220;Teddy Boy&#8221; later for <i>McCartney</i>, pulling that song from <i>Let It Be</i>.  (That said, there was <b>never</b> any good reason for the Beatles&#8217; &#8220;Teddy Boy&#8221; to be released.)</p>
<p>My personal favorite version of &#8220;Long and Winding&#8221; is a cover; George Benson covered it on <i>I Ain&#8217;t Got No Kick Against Modern Jazz</i>, a jazz take on the Beatles GRP put out in the mid-90s.  It&#8217;s a pretty uneven collection overall, but I liked Benson&#8217;s &#8220;Long and Winding&#8221; a lot.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Beatles on January 31, 1969 by Rock  Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rock  Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, that Lady Madonna is hard to take.  Maybe I shoudl have skipped it but I thought people would be curious.  

So where can you find the best version of The Long and Winding Road?  Wings Over America, perhaps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that Lady Madonna is hard to take.  Maybe I shoudl have skipped it but I thought people would be curious.  </p>
<p>So where can you find the best version of The Long and Winding Road?  Wings Over America, perhaps?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Beatles on January 31, 1969 by Allyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 17:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the shout-out during the episode.

Oh, that version of &quot;Lady Madonna&quot; was terrible.

The &quot;Long and Winding Road&quot; takes recorded on the 31st always struck me as being slightly more polished than the takes from the 26th that Glyn Johns and Phil Spector used.  The 31st takes still aren&#039;t &lt;i&gt;perfect&lt;/i&gt;, but the version on &lt;i&gt;Let It Be... Naked&lt;/i&gt; is generally clean, whereas the 26th versions are not.  One critic described the &lt;i&gt;Let It Be&lt;/i&gt; version as little more than a demo, and I&#039;m not inclined to disagree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the shout-out during the episode.</p>
<p>Oh, that version of &#8220;Lady Madonna&#8221; was terrible.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Long and Winding Road&#8221; takes recorded on the 31st always struck me as being slightly more polished than the takes from the 26th that Glyn Johns and Phil Spector used.  The 31st takes still aren&#8217;t <i>perfect</i>, but the version on <i>Let It Be&#8230; Naked</i> is generally clean, whereas the 26th versions are not.  One critic described the <i>Let It Be</i> version as little more than a demo, and I&#8217;m not inclined to disagree.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Beatles on January 29, 1969 podcast by Rock  Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rock  Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 05:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll have to pull out Let It Be...Naked.  I wonder if Paul fixed the bass parts.  I noticed that they edited out the piano error in &quot;Let It Be.&quot;  It&#039;s right around &quot;I wake up to the sound of music.&quot;  I always enjoyed the irony of it happening right there.

Didn&#039;t John admit somewhere that he wasn&#039;t much of a guitar player?  Maybe in the Rolling Stone interview.  

No, maybe Paul wouldn&#039;t have wanted Spector.  I can see that now that you point it out.  The biggest difference between the Get Backs and Let It Be is that Glynn followed the &quot;warts and all&quot; dictum and presented scrappy tracks.  Teddy Boy with feedback?   No wonder the Beatles shelved it.  Spector obviously tried to make something commercial and at least found the best versions of those songs.  [I love the &quot;I&#039;m so ashmed&quot; version of I&#039;ve Got A Feeling, but it&#039;s necessary to  hear the song played correctly 100 times before you should hear the version with such a serious mistake.]

If Glynn had tried a different approach and produced something in between Get Back and Let It Be, perhaps he could have satisfied The Beatles.  

By that point, George and Paul had proven that they could produce (Jackie Lomax, Billy Preston, Mary Hopkins, &quot;Come and Get It&quot;).   They might have preferred to focus on the music however.  It&#039;s something to think about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll have to pull out Let It Be&#8230;Naked.  I wonder if Paul fixed the bass parts.  I noticed that they edited out the piano error in &#8220;Let It Be.&#8221;  It&#8217;s right around &#8220;I wake up to the sound of music.&#8221;  I always enjoyed the irony of it happening right there.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t John admit somewhere that he wasn&#8217;t much of a guitar player?  Maybe in the Rolling Stone interview.  </p>
<p>No, maybe Paul wouldn&#8217;t have wanted Spector.  I can see that now that you point it out.  The biggest difference between the Get Backs and Let It Be is that Glynn followed the &#8220;warts and all&#8221; dictum and presented scrappy tracks.  Teddy Boy with feedback?   No wonder the Beatles shelved it.  Spector obviously tried to make something commercial and at least found the best versions of those songs.  [I love the "I'm so ashmed" version of I've Got A Feeling, but it's necessary to  hear the song played correctly 100 times before you should hear the version with such a serious mistake.]</p>
<p>If Glynn had tried a different approach and produced something in between Get Back and Let It Be, perhaps he could have satisfied The Beatles.  </p>
<p>By that point, George and Paul had proven that they could produce (Jackie Lomax, Billy Preston, Mary Hopkins, &#8220;Come and Get It&#8221;).   They might have preferred to focus on the music however.  It&#8217;s something to think about.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Beatles on January 29, 1969 podcast by Allyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rock Dad, that one was by me, by the way.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rock Dad, that one was by me, by the way.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Beatles on January 29, 1969 podcast by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make a good point about John&#039;s poor musicianship during these sessions; Ian McDonald justified Phil Spector&#039;s strings on &quot;The Long and Winding Road&quot; in &lt;i&gt;Revolution in the Head&lt;/i&gt; as about the only way of covering for John&#039;s poor bass playing on the recording.  (This is one place where the no-overdubs policy hurt; on another album, Paul simply would have recorded it later.)

As for John&#039;s musicianship, jump ahead a few months and his guitar solo is my least favorite part of &quot;The End; this was, of course, the period where John was convinced, thanks in no small part to Yoko, that every little sound he made was worthwhile.  (Witness &lt;i&gt;Two Virgins&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Life with the Lyons&lt;/i&gt; as exhibits A and B.)  Truth is, I never really &lt;i&gt;think&lt;/i&gt; of John in terms of his guitar playing.  As a vocalist, as a lyricist and composer, John&#039;s attributes are obvious.  Rhythm guitar, though?  Not so much.

As for your question on my blog &#8212; who would have produced &quot;Hot as Sun&quot; &#8212; I&#039;ve never really given it any thought.  It&#039;s not like the Beatles &lt;i&gt;needed&lt;/i&gt; a producer by this point.  I can&#039;t really imagine McCartney wanting to work with Spector, though.  And, it now occurs to me, to get to an album after &lt;i&gt;Abbey Road&lt;/i&gt;, one of the Glyn Johns &lt;i&gt;Get Back&lt;/i&gt; albums needs to go out, not Spector&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Let It Be&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make a good point about John&#8217;s poor musicianship during these sessions; Ian McDonald justified Phil Spector&#8217;s strings on &#8220;The Long and Winding Road&#8221; in <i>Revolution in the Head</i> as about the only way of covering for John&#8217;s poor bass playing on the recording.  (This is one place where the no-overdubs policy hurt; on another album, Paul simply would have recorded it later.)</p>
<p>As for John&#8217;s musicianship, jump ahead a few months and his guitar solo is my least favorite part of &#8220;The End; this was, of course, the period where John was convinced, thanks in no small part to Yoko, that every little sound he made was worthwhile.  (Witness <i>Two Virgins</i> and <i>Life with the Lyons</i> as exhibits A and B.)  Truth is, I never really <i>think</i> of John in terms of his guitar playing.  As a vocalist, as a lyricist and composer, John&#8217;s attributes are obvious.  Rhythm guitar, though?  Not so much.</p>
<p>As for your question on my blog &mdash; who would have produced &#8220;Hot as Sun&#8221; &mdash; I&#8217;ve never really given it any thought.  It&#8217;s not like the Beatles <i>needed</i> a producer by this point.  I can&#8217;t really imagine McCartney wanting to work with Spector, though.  And, it now occurs to me, to get to an album after <i>Abbey Road</i>, one of the Glyn Johns <i>Get Back</i> albums needs to go out, not Spector&#8217;s <i>Let It Be</i>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Beatles on January 29, 1969 podcast by Rock  Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rock  Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello again Allyn and thanks for another very interesting comment.  

It seems as though George&#039;s comment should have come earlier in the sessions.  Then again, they are somewhat reconciled this week, so I guess that talking about preserving the band is more appropriate than all the talk about the inevitability of breaking up from the past couple of weeks.

I don&#039;t have the right books in front of me right now, but I think that For You Blue might be the only song that was recorded on the multitracks.  That was the only song they had to work with.  To further your point, don&#039;t you think it is strange that they recorded Old Brown Shoe instead of the better songs that you mention?  

Think of how badly they performed All Things Must Pass.  Maybe George decided that he didn&#039;t want John&#039;s poor musicianship to ruin one of his songs.  John could play the simple slide guitar parts on For You Blue, but he just could not figure out what to do on All Things Must Pass and I Me Mine.  It&#039;s not like John wanted to play well anyway, but he wasn&#039;t flexible enough to do it.  John might not have even known how to play the 9th chords in Isn&#039;t It A Plty.  

Obviously, I love John&#039;s playing, but he couldn&#039;t have been a session guy.  

I love your Hot As Sun post and a non-John 1969 album would have been very interesting.  On 1/13 or 1/14, John said that either he or Paul could front the Beatles alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello again Allyn and thanks for another very interesting comment.  </p>
<p>It seems as though George&#8217;s comment should have come earlier in the sessions.  Then again, they are somewhat reconciled this week, so I guess that talking about preserving the band is more appropriate than all the talk about the inevitability of breaking up from the past couple of weeks.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have the right books in front of me right now, but I think that For You Blue might be the only song that was recorded on the multitracks.  That was the only song they had to work with.  To further your point, don&#8217;t you think it is strange that they recorded Old Brown Shoe instead of the better songs that you mention?  </p>
<p>Think of how badly they performed All Things Must Pass.  Maybe George decided that he didn&#8217;t want John&#8217;s poor musicianship to ruin one of his songs.  John could play the simple slide guitar parts on For You Blue, but he just could not figure out what to do on All Things Must Pass and I Me Mine.  It&#8217;s not like John wanted to play well anyway, but he wasn&#8217;t flexible enough to do it.  John might not have even known how to play the 9th chords in Isn&#8217;t It A Plty.  </p>
<p>Obviously, I love John&#8217;s playing, but he couldn&#8217;t have been a session guy.  </p>
<p>I love your Hot As Sun post and a non-John 1969 album would have been very interesting.  On 1/13 or 1/14, John said that either he or Paul could front the Beatles alone.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Beatles on January 29, 1969 podcast by Allyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had never heard George&#039;s speech about how he should do a solo album to &quot;preserve the Beatles bit&quot; before; I&#039;ve long known that he&#039;d said that, but I hadn&#039;t realized it had come so late into the &quot;Get Back&quot; sessions.

You look at the catalog of songs George had by this time &#8212; he&#039;s already brought forward &quot;Isn&#039;t It A Pity?&quot; (which goes back to the &lt;i&gt;Revolver&lt;/i&gt; sessions), he writes &quot;Wah-Wah,&quot; and now he trots out &quot;Let It Down&quot; (and Paul sounds happy and excitable on the backing vocals), and it&#039;s &quot;For You Blue&quot; we end up getting for the album?  (Remembering that &quot;I Me Mine&quot; was a late addition, necessitating the last sessions in January 1970.)

Now I find myself wondering &#8212; what if Paul, George, and Ringo decided to make an album together &lt;i&gt;without&lt;/i&gt; John in late &#039;69 or early &#039;70.  (Inspired by Stephen Baxter&#039;s short story &quot;The Twelfth Album,&quot; I put together an &quot;imaginary&quot; post-&lt;i&gt;Abbey Road&lt;/i&gt; album I called &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.allyngibson.net/?p=1509&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hot As Sun&lt;/a&gt;,&quot; but this new idea is almost more entertaining.)

Bring on the rooftop concert. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had never heard George&#8217;s speech about how he should do a solo album to &#8220;preserve the Beatles bit&#8221; before; I&#8217;ve long known that he&#8217;d said that, but I hadn&#8217;t realized it had come so late into the &#8220;Get Back&#8221; sessions.</p>
<p>You look at the catalog of songs George had by this time &mdash; he&#8217;s already brought forward &#8220;Isn&#8217;t It A Pity?&#8221; (which goes back to the <i>Revolver</i> sessions), he writes &#8220;Wah-Wah,&#8221; and now he trots out &#8220;Let It Down&#8221; (and Paul sounds happy and excitable on the backing vocals), and it&#8217;s &#8220;For You Blue&#8221; we end up getting for the album?  (Remembering that &#8220;I Me Mine&#8221; was a late addition, necessitating the last sessions in January 1970.)</p>
<p>Now I find myself wondering &mdash; what if Paul, George, and Ringo decided to make an album together <i>without</i> John in late &#8216;69 or early &#8216;70.  (Inspired by Stephen Baxter&#8217;s short story &#8220;The Twelfth Album,&#8221; I put together an &#8220;imaginary&#8221; post-<i>Abbey Road</i> album I called &#8220;<a href="http://www.allyngibson.net/?p=1509" rel="nofollow">Hot As Sun</a>,&#8221; but this new idea is almost more entertaining.)</p>
<p>Bring on the rooftop concert. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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